Showing posts with label JM choices. Show all posts
Showing posts with label JM choices. Show all posts

Monday, 14 September 2015

September book: The Rehearsal by Eleanor Catton

The Rehearsal 
by Eleanor Catton

chosen by JM

Theme: Author under 30




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Friday, 28 February 2014

Minutes February book: The Fight

The Fight

by Norman Mailer

(chosen by JM)

Theme: Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is.


JM is (we discovered) obsessed with Muhammad Ali and boxing.  She loves this book, and was waiting for an opportunity to choose it for bookclub - which her allocated theme gave her. In the past, she's shied away from selecting it, as she thought we'd "all hate it".  One of her favourite movies is When we Were Kings, which is a documentary about the 'Rumble in the Jungle' fight, and she can vaguely remember seeing parts of the fight back in the 1970s.

About the author:

Norman Mailer was born in 1923 and went to Harvard when he was sixteen. While studying engineering at university he became interested in writing; he published his first story when he was eighteen. He wrote a number of books and also directed four films. In 1955 Norman Mailer co-founded the Village Voice, and he was the editor of Dissent from 1952 until 1963. For his part in demonstrations against the war in Vietnam he was gaoled in 1967. He was President of PEN (US chapter) from 1984 to 1986 and was winner of the National Book Award for Arts and Letters in 1969 and of the Pulitzer Prize twice, once in 1969 and again in 1980. He was married six times and had nine children. He died in November 2007.

(general biographical detail from the publisher's website)

What the publisher says about the book:
In 1975, at the World Heavyweight Boxing Championship in Kinshasa, Zaire, Muhammad Ali met George Foreman in the ring. Foreman's genius employed silence, serenity and cunning. He had never been defeated. His hands were his instrument, and 'he kept them in his pockets the way a hunter lays his rifle back into its velvet case'. Together the two men made boxing history in an explosive meeting of two great minds, two iron wills and monumental egos.
What we discussed about the book:
  • Is this a book about Ali and Foreman, or a book about Mailer? How did he insert himself into the narrative?
  • Why did Mailer chose an illeistic style to write this book? (referring to himself in the third person)
  • In what ways are each of the characters presented?
  • Why does Ali hold such popular appeal - what is it about his character that creates this? 
  • How much would the fight fees of $5,000,0000 in 1974 be worth in today's money?
  • What were each of them going to do with the money?
  • Was Mailer privy to the actual training Ali was doing, or was it a strategic facade to seem to be doing less than Foreman? Was he training during the night?
  • Was loosening the rope, and tightening the canvas within the rules?
  • How did the written descriptions of the actual fight compare with the video footage on YouTube?
  • How would we describe the writing style of this book? Did it help or hinder our reading experience?
  • Did we understand the black political agenda underpinning the book? What were Mailer's views?  
  • How did Mailer present the political situation in the Zaire? 
  • Is this a book that appeals equally to men and women? Why or why not?
And then we were sidetracked into:
  • What is the appeal of boxing as a spectator sport?
  • How do you become a 'heavyweight champion'? Is there just one?
  • What is cage fighting? Why is it popular?
  • How a full-length book tells a story differently to newspaper and magazine articles. Does the longer deadline alter the views of the writer by offering time for reflection?
  • Are there racist connotations to the term 'Rumble in the Jungle'?
In other news, we discussed:
  • Numerous upcoming travel plans
  • The experience of a Turkish hamam. Is communal semi-nude bathing in our comfort zone?
Ratings:
Range: 4 to 8.5
Average:  6.61

Next book: One Day by David Nicholls (chosen by Domestic Goddess)

Tuesday, 4 February 2014

February book: The Fight by Norman Mailer


The Fight

by Norman Mailer

(chosen by JM)






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Thursday, 31 October 2013

Minutes October book: Orange is the New Black

Orange is the New Black

by Piper Kerman

(chosen by JM)

Theme: Crime and Punishment


JM thought about the themes and decided she definitely wouldn't chose THE novel it suggested. She initially chose Marching Powder by Rusty Young, a story about a young guy caught bringing cocaine back from Bolivia, but changed her mind, as she was not rapt in it. Her second choice was Girls Like You, by Paul Sheehan but thought it was maybe a bit too long. The trusty Avenue bookstore suggested Orange is the New Black.

About the author:

Piper Kerman is the author of the memoir Orange is the New Black: My Year in a Women’s Prison from Spiegel and Grau, which has been adapted into an original television series for Netflix. She is a frequent invited speaker to students of law, criminology, gender and women’s studies, sociology, and creative writing, and also to groups that include the American Correctional Association’s Disproportionate Minority Confinement Task Force, federal probation officers, public defenders, justice reform advocates and volunteers, book clubs, and formerly and currently incarcerated people. She serves on the board of the Women’s Prison Association. Piper works with Spitfire Strategies as a communications consultant with nonprofits, philanthropies, and other organizations working in the public interest. She works on a range of issues including criminal justice reform. Her clients include the Open Society Foundations, the Ford Foundation, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, and many nonprofits.

(general biographical detail from the author's website)

What the publisher says about the book:
With a career, a boyfriend, and a loving family, Piper Kerman barely resembles the reckless young woman who delivered a suitcase of drug money ten years before. But that past has caught up with her. Convicted and sentenced to fifteen months at the infamous federal correctional facility in Danbury, Connecticut, the well-heeled Smith College alumna is now inmate #11187–424—one of the millions of people who disappear “down the rabbit hole” of the American penal system. From her first strip search to her final release, Kerman learns to navigate this strange world with its strictly enforced codes of behavior and arbitrary rules. She meets women from all walks of life, who surprise her with small tokens of generosity, hard words of wisdom, and simple acts of acceptance. Heartbreaking, hilarious, and at times enraging, Kerman’s story offers a rare look into the lives of women in prison—why it is we lock so many away and what happens to them when they’re there.
What we discussed about the book:
  • Was this a rose-coloured glasses view of life in prison written in retrospect? Or did this accurately reflect the circumstances?
  • How were Piper's circumstances different to others around her?
  • The compassionate and kind nature of other prisoners - e.g. the goodwill on arrival
  • Did we want 'more' from each character, rather than snippets about each of them?
  • Did we want to know more about what happened to each character outside prison?
  • What is the purpose of the paperwork and bureaucracy in the prison system? Is it just an inefficiency or is there a greater purpose?
  • What is Piper Kerman's motivation in writing the book? Does she want to change our perceptions of women in prisons?
  • To what extent does the length of a sentence psychologically affect the prisoner?
  • We wondered about Kerman's writing process. Had she kept notes or a journal? Or is it all reconstructed from memory?
And then we were sidetracked into:
  • The 1980s US drug legislation that led to a rapid increase in rates of incarceration
  • The impact of one mistake in one's youth
  • The effect illiteracy has on life skills and expectations
  • The differences between the book and the TV series
  • Can parallels in be drawn between African-American incarceration rates, and Australian indigenous rates?
In other news, we discussed:
  • Cutting out sugar and alcohol...does it also cut all the joy out of life?
  • Michael Mosley's 5:2 fast diet
  • The last days of year 12, and schoolies week.
  • Weird Melbourne weather...and powercuts
Ratings:
Range: 6.5 to 9
Average:  7.44

Next book: The Age of Miracles by Karen Thompson Walker (chosen by KM)

Monday, 14 October 2013

October book: Orange is the New Black

Orange is the New Black

by Piper Kerman

Chosen by JM






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Saturday, 17 November 2012

Minutes November book: Blood, Bones & Butter

Blood, Bones & Butter

By Gabrielle Hamilton

(Chosen by JM)




(Thanks to Domestic Goddess for taking notes for the minutes in my absence - Ed.)

 JM chose this book on the recommendation of her husband who had read it. She thought it would offer a light-hearted and easy-to-read option that would appeal to the culinary whizzes among us.

About the author:

Gabrielle Hamilton is the chef/owner of PRUNE which she opened in New York City’s East Village in October 1999. Gabrielle has written for The New Yorker, The New York Times, GQ, Bon Appetit, Saveur and Food & Wine. Gabrielle was also nominated for Best Chef NYC in 2009 and 2010 by the James Beard Foundation and in 2011 won the category. Blood, Bones & Butter: The Inadvertent Education of a Reluctant Chef is a New York Time bestseller, and has been published in six languages and won the James Beard Foundation’s award for Writing and Literature in 2012. She lives in Manhattan with her two sons.

(general biographical detail from the website for the book)

What the publisher says about the book:

Gabrielle Hamilton's childhood home in rural New Jersey, with her four siblings and her parents who threw grand parties (hundreds of guests came to enjoy the pigeon pies and baby lambs roasted over wood fires), was thrilling , magnificent. But when her parents divorced and the family scattered, Gabrielle was left, aged twelve, almost alone in the empty house for the summer. Forced to fend for herself, she drew on the hours spent watching her adored mother at the stove, and got a kitchen job in the nearest town. The riotous years that followed were full of hard graft, hard living and many far-flung kitchens. In New York, and with rent to pay, Gabrielle spent years working in soulless catering factories, then found herself graduating with a creative writing degree, opening a restaurant and entering into an unlikely and flawed marriage with an Italian man. Every summer they take their two boys to the family home, and her beloved mother-in-law, in Puglia. Gabrielle gives us the stories, gritty and intimate, of the people, places and meals that have shaped her journey. Unflinchingly honest, moving, funny, sharply crafted - Blood, Bones & Butter is a rollicking, passionate story about food, purpose and family. Not only is Gabrielle Hamilton one of America's most recognised chefs, she is also set to make her mark as an uncompromising literary talent.
What we discussed about the book:
  • The honesty of the author, often at her own expense.
  • How would we describe her love relationships, particularly her marriage?
  • How would we describe her relationships with her parents and the rest of her family?
  • The pitfalls of opening a restaurant. Is it something better tackled with a degree of ignorance?
  • In what ways is the title of the book apt?
  • The authenticity of her descriptions of Italian family life, and acceptance into the family.
  • The difference between describing yourself as a 'chef' and as a 'cook'.
  • Why did she freeze when speaking to the students at the conference? Was this in character?
  • The writing style - how descriptive and evocative it was.
  • Some editions have an extra chapter - does this chapter change the experience of reading the book?
  • How well we related to the author's character.
And then we were sidetracked into:
  • The current status of PRUNE restaurant (closed due to Hurricane Sandy)
  • Is honesty in cooking easier to achieve than honesty in relationships?
  • The author's amazing work ethic.
  • Our love of the lists in the book.
In other news, we discussed:
  • School fees for years that include 'outward bound' experiences.
  • The importance (or not!) of linen being laundered correctly.
  • The etiquette of using someone's beach house.
  • Cycling up Anderson Street hill.

Ratings:
Range: 7 to 8.5
Average:  7.8

Next book: The Widow Clicquot by Tilar J Mazzeo (chosen by T-Rex)

Friday, 9 November 2012

November Book: Blood, Bones and Butter by Gabrielle Hamilton

Blood, Bones and Butter

by Gabrielle Hamilton

(chosen by JM)








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Friday, 25 November 2011

October book: Let the Great World Spin by Colum McCann

Let the Great World Spin

by Colum McCann







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Friday, 7 May 2010

Minutes April Book: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

** Warning...these minutes contain spoilers...read on at your own risk**





The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

by Steig Larsson

(Chosen by JM)




Unfortunately, JM was ill the day of our April meeting and was not able to attend to discuss her book choice, but in true No.1 Melbourne Ladies' style, we were able to wing the discussion, and cover a lot of different aspects of the book.

Stieg Larsson, who lived in Sweden, was the editor in chief of the magazine Expo and a leading expert on antidemocratic right-wing extremist and Nazi organizations. He died in 2004, shortly after delivering the manuscripts for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Girl Who Played with Fire, and The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest.

(General biographical details from the official website for the books)

What the publisher says about the book:



An international publishing sensation, Stieg Larsson's The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo combines murder mystery, family saga, love story, and financial intrigue into one satisfyingly complex and entertainingly atmospheric novel.

Harriet Vanger, a scion of one of Sweden's wealthiest families disappeared over forty years ago. All these years later, her aged uncle continues to seek the truth. He hires Mikael Blomkvist, a crusading journalist recently trapped by a libel conviction, to investigate. He is aided by the pierced and tattooed punk prodigy Lisbeth Salander. Together they tap into a vein of unfathomable iniquity and astonishing corruption.

What we discussed about the book:


  • Was Mikael an aspirational character for Steig Larrson?
  • Did the translation make sense? At what points did we feel the English words chosen possibly did not accurately reflect the author's intention?
  • Who is the main character? Mikael or Lisbeth?
  • If it was Lisbeth, what was Mikael's role?
  • Is Mikael a bad man? Did we lack empathy for him? Why?
  • Would the relationship between Erika and Mikael read differently to Swedish readers?
  • Were we frustrated by them not going to the police? Why was this the path chosen?
  • Were there parts of the plot that didn't seem credible, and therefore affected our engagement with the plot? (i.e. the idea of compensation the families of all the girls, Harriet being able to live as Anita, the scene with Lisbeth and the two hotels/disguises)
  • Is this a feminist novel?
  • Is Lisbeth an anarchist? Do we like her or not? Does she show signs of Aspergers?

And then we were sidetracked into:
  • Who wants to see the movie? Does it matter if the movie is in Swedish with English subtitles?
  • How responsible is a criminal for his crimes? For example, Martin's abuse as a child continues in his abuse of others. How responsible should he be for making that choice?
  • Photographic evidence. Does the sheer volume of digital photography of any given moment ensure that there will be way more evidence for investigators to examine for crimes?
  • Do what extent are we able to read graphically violent scenes?

In other news:

  • In case you missed it previously, the online bookstore some of us use is http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/
  • We agreed to take part in The Great Book Swap for Indigenous Literacy Day this year in memory of our much missed member, S.
  • We chatted about Burma as a holiday destination, and the age range of the No.1 Melbourne Ladies (10 years between the oldest and youngest)
  • And we discussed what to do with all those digital photos stored on computers (e.g producing Photobooks), wondered at the ability of Picasa to recognise faces in photos and mused about why it is that setting photos to a music soundtrack is guaranteed to produce tears in the viewer?

Ratings

Range: 6.5 to 9.5

Average: 8.05

Next book: The Other hand by Chris Cleave (Chosen by Elster)

Sunday, 11 April 2010

April book: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo by Steig Larsson



The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

by Steig Larsson

(Chosen by JM)





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Saturday, 16 May 2009

Minutes April book: Speeches that Changed the World


Minutes April book: Speeches that Changed the World with intro by Simon Sebag Montefiore

(chosen by JM)




JM chose this book on the suggestion of a former No.1 Melbourne Ladies Bookclub member now residing in the wild West (JL). JL had said that it looked fantastic. She hadn't actually read it herself - but this is from a bookclub member who once chose the month's book (Dingo: The Story of Our Mob by Ernie Dingo) and then turned up to the discussion meeting having not actually read it herself...so we completely understood!

JM was intrigued by the idea of placing some of those famous lines from speeches into their original context by reading the full text of the speeches.

Simon Sebag Montefiore wrote the introduction to this book. He was born in 1965, educated at Harrow School and read history at Gonville & Caius College, Cambridge University.

He is the award-winning author of the bestselling books Young Stalin, Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar and Catherine the Great & Potemkin.His new novel, Sashenka, published under the name 'Simon Montefiore', has been sold in 14 languages including Russian.

His next history book is Jerusalem: the Biography, a fresh history of the Middle East. He has recently selected his heroes from history, published as 'Heroes: History's Greatest Men and Women' and his anti-heroes published as Monsters: History's Most Evil Men and Women.

Montefiore is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature, and lives in London with his wife, the novelist Santa Montefiore, and their two children.


(General biographical detail from
Simon Sebag Montefiore's own website)

What the publisher says about this book:

Over 50 of the world's greatest speeches, the stories behind them and biographies of each speaker, including: Elizabeth I; Charles I; Oliver Cromwell; George Washington; Napolean; Emmeline Pankhurst; Marie Curie; Mahatma Gandhi; Stalin; Winston Churchill; Charles de Gaulle; John F Kennedy; Martin Luther King; Mother Teresa; Nelson Mandela; and many others from throughout history whose words have motivated, given hope to and sometimes terrified those who heard them.

Inspiring and thought-provoking, Speeches that Changed the World provides a unique perspective on the major turning points in history.

What we discussed about the book:
  • What was Simon Sebag Montefiore's role in the book? Was it purely the writing of the introduction? (Earlier editions do not contain his intro.) Was it just a marketing ploy to use his name to promote the anonymously compiled and edited book?
  • Why were some of the speeches chosen?
  • Did ever speech 'change the world'?
  • What constitutes a 'great speech' - is it the content, or the delivery?
  • How different is it to read words on paper that are intended to be received aurally?
  • Did we listen to the CD provided with the book? In what ways did that enhance our understanding of the speeches?
  • Was there too much or too little introductory information for each speech?
  • Would we have liked more analysis of the aftermath of the delivery of each speech?
  • Why were so many of the speeches by lawyers?
  • Did we think there were omissions of content - eg the Labour Movement/8 hour day movement?
  • Was this a book targeted at high school students?
  • What is the role of speechwriters? Should they be acknowledged, or does the giver of the speech ultimately 'own' the words?
And then we were sidetracked into:
  • Do speeches need to be heard in context to have the effect intended?
  • With hindsight, how differently do we interpret words spoken years earlier?
  • If Simon Sebag Montefiore didn't have anything to do with the editing of the book what benefit is there in writing an introduction and having your name associated with it? Is it purely a commercial transaction? Does it add to your 'brand' as an author?
  • Has modern media and the age of the soundbite changed the way speeches are written?
  • Do modern audiences have less tolerance for long-winded orations?
  • Can you teach the skill of good oration or is it something people are born with?
  • What would we include in a volume entitled, "Speeches that Changed Australia?" (e.g Rudd's Sorry day speech, Whitlam's dismissal speech, Menzies announcing war, Keating's victory speech.) What ones by non-politicians would we include?
  • How do you use silence in a speech for effect?
In other news:
  • We discussed GPS systems and whether the voices could be any more annoying.
  • Does Australia need a new standardised system of clothing sizing - how does 'Country Road' sizing compare with department store sizing?
  • Who remembered the community service announcements that ran on Channel Nine TV in Perth in the 1970s/80s? Vitamins and Minerals, Mum Knows , Dingalings do Stupid Things, and Dirt & Germs. (Click on the links to watch them on YouTube - ahhhhh for the days when mums were so revered!)
Ratings:
Ratings range: 6 to 8
Ratings average: 6.81


Next book: The White Tiger by Aravind Adiga (chosen by T-Rex)

Sunday, 19 April 2009

April Book: Speeches that Changed the World with intro by Simon Sebag Montefiore


April Book: Speeches that Changed the World
with intro by Simon Sebag Montefiore


(chosen by JM)




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Friday, 11 July 2008

Minutes June 2008 Book: The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas by John Boyne

The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas

by John Boyne

(chosen by JM)



JM was given this book as a birthday present, so figured she had to read it at some point and bookclub was as good a motivation as any. She had heard good feedback from other people that had read it and liked the size of the print!


John Boyne is an Irish writer, born in Dublin in 1971. He studied at Trinity College Dublin and the University of East Anglia, Norwich and has published six novels, a short novella for charity, some short stories, book reviews, articles and interviews with other writers. He’s two Irish Book Awards, and the Bisto Book of the Year Award as well as being shortlisted for the British Book Award, and the Hennessy Award

The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas spent 66 weeks at no.1 in Ireland and has been a bestseller in many countries. It’s sold more than 2.5 million copies worldwide, and has been made into a film.

(general biographical details from John Boyne’s own website)

What the publisher says about the book:

A story of innocence existing within the most terrible evil, this is the fictional tale of two young boys caught up in events entirely beyond their control.

Berlin 1942
When Bruno returns home from school one day, he discovers that his belongings are being packed in crates. His father has received a promotion and the family must move from their home to a new house far far away, where there is no one to play with and nothing to do. A tall fence running alongside stretches as far as the eye can see and cuts him off from the strange people he can see in the distance.

But Bruno longs to be an explorer and decides that there must be more to this desolate new place than meets the eye. While exploring his new environment, he meets another boy whose life and circumstances are very different to his own, and their meeting results in a friendship that has devastating consequences.

What we discussed about the book:
  • How would children interpret the book? How would their understanding of it be different from adult readers?
  • What is a young adult? What age of child would this book be suitable for?
  • Was the naivety of Bruno credible?
  • Does this novel require a suspension of disbelief in order to fully appreciate the core of the story?
  • Is the book depressing or is it a celebration of friendship?
  • How was the friendship portrayed from each of the boy’s perspectives? What was the ‘value’ of the friendship to each of the boys? Was it a meeting of each other’s needs?
  • How did the father reconcile his work with his personal character? Was he a good father?
  • Did the mother have an affair with the Lieutenant? Is that idea too much a reflection of adult reading between the lines?
  • What did the ending mean? “Not in this day and age.” How does that apply to current world events?
Then we were sidetracked into:
  • How exactly is pyjamas/pajamas spelled? Why did we have different versions on the books we had?
  • What makes a book a “young adult” book as opposed to an adult book?
  • How amazing it was that everyone present had actually finished the book. Was this a No.1 Melbourne Bookclub Ladies’ first?
  • What degree of violence is acceptable for children in various forms of media – e.g literature, DVDs, games? Is fantasy horror or violence more acceptable than portrayals of ‘real’ violence?
  • Did we see some similarities thematically between this book and The Kiterunner?
And in other news, we discussed:
  • How many eggs could a chicken be expected to lay in a day? (Ed note: I googled it, and I believe those of us who said one or less a day are right!)
  • The value of getting your personal colours and style evaluated.
  • Babysitting clubs. How do they work?

Ratings:

Initial rating range: 5.5 to 10.0
Initial rating average: 8.06
Post-discussion range: 5.5 to 10.0
Post-discussion average: 7.93


Next book: Love in the Time of Cholera by Gabriel Garcia Marquez

Tuesday, 10 June 2008

June book: The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas by John Boyne

The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas

by John Boyne


(chosen by JM)

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Thursday, 28 February 2008

New bookclub bub!

The No.1 Melbourne Ladies' Bookclub
congratulates JM and her hubby
on the arrival of their third son
on Wednesday 27th February.
8lbs 8oz.
All doing well.

Monday, 27 August 2007

Minutes August 2007 Book: The Women's Room by Marilyn French

The Women's Room by Marilyn French (chosen by JM)



JM chose this book after reading an article about Marilyn French in the Good Weekend magazine in May. The article referred to it being the 30th anniversary of The Women's Room this year, and highlighted the importance of this novel. JM hadn't ever heard of, so decided to choose this novel to "drag herself out of the cultural wasteland" and to haul all the No.1 Melbourne Ladies' Bookclub members along with her!

French was born in New York to a family of Polish descent. She did a BA at Hofstra College in Long Island in 1951, and left the college to marry. She started to write seriously in 1957, but it was 1976 before her first book was published. She has two children and divorced their father in 1967. She gained an MA and a PhD, and has taught in universities/colleges.

French's first book was her thesis on James Joyce (1976). A year later it was followed by The Women's Room. Her sixth novel was released in 2006 and is called In the Name of Friendship.

21 million copies of The Women's Room have been sold. It has been translated into 20 languages and has been made into a TV movie (1980).

In 1992 at the age of 61, French was diagnosed with metastasized esophageal cancer, and was given no hope. She did, however, win her battle. (Biographical details from here)

The synopsis of The Women's Room from amazon.co.uk:

A landmark in feminist literature, THE WOMEN'S ROOM is a biting social commentary of a world gone silently haywire. Written in the 1970s but with profound resonance today, this is a modern allegory that offers piercing insight into the social norms accepted blindly and revered so completely.

'Today's desperate housewives eat your heart out! This is the original and still the best, a page-turner that makes you think. Essential reading' Kate Mosse

'They said this book would change lives - and it certainly changed mine' Jenni Murray

'Reading THE WOMEN'S ROOM was an intense and wonderful experience. It is in my DNA' Kirsty Wark

'THE WOMEN'S ROOM took the lid off a seething mass of women's frustrations, resentments and furies; it was about the need to change things from top to bottom; it was a declaration of independence' OBSERVER


What we discussed about the book:


  • To what extent is this book still relevant 30 years later?
  • Are men scared of women's sexuality? Is that at the heart of attempts to retain power over women?
  • Did Mira do the right thing in refusing to accompany Ben to Africa?
  • The rape of Chris highlighted injustices in the way the judicial system in the 1970s dealt with victims of sex crimes. Is this still the case?
  • The suburban party scenes of the first half of the book - where married couples flirted (and took it further) with other husbands and wives. What was the motivation for this behaviour? Did it spring from the fact many had married young and inexperienced, and later yearned for some adventure?
  • Was Mira's name intended to be a reference to her acting as a 'mirror' to all women? Was 'Norm' intended to represent the normal man?
  • Is this book a cautionary tale about the futility of searching for 'love' in a relationship?

Issues we were sidetracked into:

  • Why are (traditionally) predominantly male-occupied jobs (eg. engineering, law, accounting) paid more than predominantly female-occupied jobs (eg. nursing, teaching)?
  • Is it neccessary for both partners in a marriage to work? What risk does not working pose to the non-working partner?
  • How can you change long-held attitudes across a whole society? How have some of the Scandinavian countries managed it?
  • Does the 'knight in shining armour' mentality still exist among the young Australian women of today?
  • Is there an ideal age difference between partners in a marriage? Would an older man be better suited to a younger women, and an older woman, a younger man?
  • Does 'education' alone cause women to question the status quo...or does it depend on the type and content of the education?
  • Could communal living work better for women than nuclear-family living?

And in other news:

  • Kensington is doing well with her gorgeous baby boy!
  • TeamSAK is back on track with her chemo...having only missed a few days.
  • M will be down from Sydney for the Writers Festival next weekend and hopes to catch up with as many No.1 Melbourne Ladies as possible on Saturday night.
  • T-Rex had seen Ian McKellen in King Lear and was most impressed with his performance. Melbourne radio media has commented in past weeks about his nude scene at great length!

Ratings

Average: 5.875

Range: 4 to 6.75

Next book: Suite Francaise by Irene Nemirovsky

August book: The Women's Room by Marilyn French


Sorry ladies, I've been very tardy in loading up this post - slap your blogmistress's wrist. But, in the interests of completeness I'm putting it up now. You never know when you may like to wander back through the archives and do a bit of background research on past book choices!

The Women's Room by Marilyn French
(chosen by JM)
Meeting date: August 21st
Venue: T-Rex's house

Some links for background information to get you started...